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| People Found Gold Coins In Aceh, Indonesia.
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samuel tan
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 Posted 12/27/2013 11:20 am
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I saw lots of old gold jewelry and coins in the past. My dad was the largest gold dealer in small town Semarang, Indonesia. Indonesian bought and sold gold a lot like American today, since Rupiah value continuously declined. But I don't remember seeing gloss like that, now I learn. Thanks jfransch.
I watch a video about Indonesian simple elderly woman, a peasant from a very small island called Banana Island in South Sumatra. She plants cloves all her life. I was surprise that she gauge the value of her products with gold. I never knew that simple people like that thinking like business people.
Well, Sumatra's original name in Sanskrit language is Suwarna Dwipa or means Island of Gold or Gold Island. There are some gold mines in Sumatra, but I guess it must be a lot more in the past.
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| People Found Gold Coins In Aceh, Indonesia.
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samuel tan
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Posted 12/22/2013 12:12 pm
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Hold on to your Kupang's coins Sel. As far I know, Kupang is in Timor, not Aceh. Not all coins they found are not from Aceh, some does. Most of them are from Turkey, even though they found them in Aceh.
http://www.tribunnews.com/regional/..ttoman-turki
TRIBUNNEWS.COM , BANDA ACEH - The Mystery of the origin of the two types of thousands of gold coins found in the Village Pande , District Kutaraja , Banda Aceh began to unfold . It turned out that the historical objects , dating from the Turkish Ottoman Empire and the Sultan of Aceh .
Thousands of copies of the first kind Dirham coin -sized one thousand dollars , was minted during the reign of Sultan Sulaiman ibn Salim of the Ottoman Dynasty ( Ottoman ) in Turkey .
This, the researchers revealed the cultural history of Islam , Taqi al-Din Muhammad, who conducted a study of the Dirham .
" Originally it was revealed thanks coins obverse coin inscription reads ' Sultan Salim bin Sultan Sulaiman Shah ` uzza nashruhu dhuriba Mishr sanah 927 fi ' " said Taqiyuddin , Tuesday ( 20/11/2013 ) .
That sentence , he said , means " son of Sultan Salim Sultan Sulaiman Shah - hopefully strengthened victory - printed in Egypt in the year 927/6 ( AH ) . "
" Sultan Sulaiman or also better known as Al - Qanuniy was the 10th ruler of the Ottoman dynasty in Turkey and has been ruled in the past that a long time since the death of his father Sultan Salim on H/1520 926 AD until his death in 974 AD H/1566 , " he explained .
Meanwhile , one other type of coin -sized buttons that are found in the same place after investigation of a sultan name printed in the history of Aceh . Written on the face , " Alawuddin bin ` Ali Malik az- Zahir " . While the back is written " As- Sulthan Al - Adil " .
According to Taqi al-Din , Sultan Alawuddin is the son of Sultan Ali Shah Mughayat which is considered a pioneer of the revival of Aceh Darussalam in the early 16th century AD
Data corresponding inscriptions (words inscribed on stone or stamped on the coins ) which successfully revealed headstone tomb of Sultan Alawuddin tomb complex is located in Cage XII , Banda Aceh , shows he is a supreme sultan in Southeast Asia in the century .
" It is the destiny of the Almighty alone , the Islamic world at that time was corroborated by the presence of the two leaders of this people , Al - Qanuniy in the West and in the East Ri'ayah Shah , " said Taqiyuddin .
The discovery of dirhams Sultan Sulaiman Al - Qanuniy dirham inscribed in conjunction with ` Ala'uddin Ri'ayah Malik az- Zahir Shah in the Village Pande recently become concrete evidence of the existence of a very strong relationship between the two rulers of the Islamic world .
" Both are likened to the two brothers who have contributed a lot of good for Muslims in the 16th century , " he said .
According to him , during the reign of Al - Qanuniy is the height of the glories of the Ottoman dynasty . The navy under the command of Barbaros Khairuddin ( Hayreddin Barbarossa ) has achieved many important movements in the history of the conquest of this dynasty .
In the reign of Sultan Sulaiman Al - Qanuniy in Turkey , Aceh was the reign of Sultan ` Ala'uddin Ri'ayah emperor Shah after his father , Sultan ` Ali Shah Mughayat , died in 936 AD H/1530
As Al - Qanuniy , Ri'ayah Shah was the sultan who ruled in the long term as well , that is up to his death in 979 AD H/1572 , and his time is also a time of glory Aceh Darussalam . ( sar )
Banda Aceh Related # # # Gold Coins Ancient treasure
I wonder why after all these years, the gold coins untarnished, look like new. See photo on the link address. |
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| People Found Gold Coins In Aceh, Indonesia.
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samuel tan
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Posted 12/22/2013 01:27 am
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The discovery of Gold Coins in Aceh,id
Thousands of treasure chest containing Ancient Gold Coins Found in Kutaraja,id
Tuesday, 12 November 2013 12:34 WIB,ht
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http://www.tribunnews.com/regional/..-di-kutaraja
SERAMBI/M ANSHAR
Residents showed gold coins were found in the village pond Merduati, District Kutaraja, Banda Aceh, on Monday (11/11). Ancient gold coins are estimated to number in the thousands was first discovered in a casket fashioned by a search of oysters and sold to a gold shop in the Market Atjeh up to a hundred million dollars.,id
TRIBUNNEWS.COM, BANDA ACEH - Senior Sub Kutaraja, Banda Aceh , managed and publicized by the discovery of gold coins(dirhams) in large quantities at the confluence FORUM DOY, Gampong Merduati.,ms
Information found this gold coin , originally known Lampaseh foyer of residents of Aceh , on Monday afternoon . He said a neighbor got a piece of gold the size of a coin buttons , on the basis of kuala Krueng Doy .
" There is a new neighbor search home the gold in the river . Lot of people there -do go down to the river . Failure by many , there are already selling into the market to a hundred million more . , But now the location has been guarded by the police , " said the resident.
When the porch arrived at the scene of the discovery of gold coins , after sunset , seen dozens of men and women , ranging from parents to children , were in the river with flashlights equipment , buckets , and other equipment .
Obtained information that police officers not prohibit residents to look for gold in the river , but was forced to dissolve because it is before sunset . Moreover , when the number of people who come to the site more and more , not only of the District Kutaraja but also from other regions .
Finding gold coin news , with seasoning towing curiosity , still continues to spread rapidly . Thus, only several minutes after evening prayers ended , the re- location crowded with people . They come with the equipment that is more complete .
In fact , around 22:30 pm , a resident returned to find a handful of gold coins . This situation adds to the spirit of other citizens to participate plunged into the river water was limited to a height of an adult 's thigh .
Information gathered in the foyer location , finding gold coins in the river basin , first discovered by the Righteous , Lampaseh Acehnese people who are looking for oysters on the bottom of the river , which before the tsunami was an ancient cemetery complex . Activity search for oysters and local residents often did at low tide for sale .
Monday morning , while scavenging the river bed to find oysters , Righteous step stopped when he found a chest covered with oysters around . " He hit it with machete chest to release the attached oysters .
However , the chest was opened and spilled gold coins in it , the amount may reach thousands of pieces , " said chipped , Chairman of the Village Youth Merduati .
Still according to the story Chipped, Righteous and some residents who managed to take the gold coins , gold shop to sell directly in the market Atjeh . " There received Rp 117 million for a fist of gold coins , " said Chipped .
Other information obtained porch , until yesterday afternoon had many people who managed to get the gold coin and sell it . The money obtained from selling the gold coins varies , depending on the number of coins were found .
At the site of the discovery , the price of gold was priced at Rp 350 thousand per coin size of shirt buttons , and Rp 800 thousand to Rp coin-sized coins 1,000 . Until this news was revealed last night at 23:00 pm , finding the location of the gold coin was still filled with people who looking for gold coins from the bottom of Kuala Krueng Doy . ( yat / saf ) |
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| Mexicana Coins
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samuel tan
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Posted 01/25/2013 8:47 pm
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Here they are, I just want to share what I learned from these old Mexicana coins auction. Sure the Hookneck is very interesting. At the beginning, I thought I could salvaged it and make "key chain" out of tampered old coins. But somebody out there still interested to it.
1776 US birth year is also a surprise for me, now I will pay more attention on that year. If any...
The auction is well worth it if I could buy more of these Mexicana coins :). I hope I came across again in the future, but I doubt it.
Another one, (too bad I didn't have the picture) is East Indies Madura Island counter stamp. It brought high premium.
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| Help With Ecrater
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samuel tan
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Posted 09/04/2012 4:59 pm
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I am not sure if this is appropriate, but I know a lot of forum members selling in eCrater.
I need help to post my coins on eCrater.
I am going to sell ALL my collection for good cause. I realize that it will took me ages to list thousands of coins here. I thought it will be better to "permanently" listed there for everybody to see. I have many pre WWII from countries that not exist any longer. Most of them are few dollars worth, too expensive to buy by it self due to high shipping's cost. They will be perfect to sell as "fillers" to sell with other more value. I have no heart to recycle them. Also most of my silver coins, due too high silver price, especially the UNC German Silver Commemorative. |
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| Belgium 1946, 1 Franc Not In KM Catalog
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samuel tan
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Posted 09/04/2012 4:37 pm
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It is 1946.
Funny thing happened, I took my magnifying glass wanted to check the year this coin. I was baffled, when I read 31973B. It took me a while to realize that I read the wrong side of the coin. The 31973B is BELGIE upside down and back ward. |
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| Is There Any Netherlands, Ned Indies Collectors Among Us?
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samuel tan
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Posted 09/01/2012 1:58 pm
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Peter THOMAS, the story getting a lot more interesting. http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/..hip-mystery/
Hugh Edwards and his team believe the Aagtekerke struck Half Moon Reef in the archipelago off Geraldton when it disappeared en route to Indonesia in 1726.
Next month they hope to find some of the three tonnes of silver coins the ship was carrying between the Cape of Good Hope and Jakarta that could prove the wreck is in the Abrolhos Islands.
Three tons of pre 1726 coins are whole lots of Dough today.
This is only one of them, there are 1,400 shipwrecks. |
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samuel tan
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Posted 09/01/2012 1:29 pm
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Hi Peter THOMAS and WVUcoins, Nice to know you guys.
It looks like there are only few of us in this forum collecting Netherlands and Ned Indie.
I have MANY pre 1945, Nederlands Indies and The Netherlands started from early 19th century. I was born in Java and started collecting coins on my early age.
But now, I am selling everything in the forum for good cause. I also try to sell to The Netherlands, since there must be a lot more collectors there.
Peter, since you love coins and history, I will tell you that the Dutch found out that the fastest way to sail to Indie is straight from South Africa to West Australia, and then go north to Indie. People found Dutch ship wrecks in West Australia. Do you know what they brought most to Indie? They brought coins for Indies monetaries and to buy goods, also to add weight to stabilize their ships. I learn that they even brought bricks in the past to build fortress and churches for same reason.
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samuel tan
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Posted 08/29/2012 1:56 pm
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Westwood Arms, I just want to let you know that particular 1749 is going to PCGS, and Ponterio going to auction it on November 1, 2012.
I also post this information under Mexicana topic.
Regarding Sovereign and other popular gold coins, I still don't know how to detect fakes. They are made same way the original coins, the copy must be off a little. For trained eyes, they probably know where to spot the mistakes. I would like to learn. They are available abundantly in Indonesia. Literary you could buy them off the street, in every jewelry store. I also wonder if the real one carry premium.
I am sure I could return it, since I know the seller "quite well", what disappointing me that he crossed my trust. May be he didn't know either, since this is a jewelry store, not selling or specialized in coins.
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samuel tan
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Posted 08/29/2012 01:38 am
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Just came back from Ponterio.
The Gold coin is FAKE. It is like Sovereign, many people fake them because it makes easier to buy and sell as "standard" of the coin market. I use to help my dad to select thousands of Sovereigns on one sitting when I was young, take a break for lunch and back to work again. But I really couldn't tell the good and the fake. I just looking for the better grades for him. The fake coin will go back to the seller in Newport Beach!
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