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aeromedic's Last 20 Posts

1946 Penny And 1937 Crown
aeromedic
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Old Post Posted 09/19/2024  7:17 pm
Late to reply to this post, but I think neither is worth grading.
Grading should only be done for high value coins which doesn't apply here.
The 1937 crown could be EF but the volume available of these coins reduces collector value closer to bullion value. Still, a nice coin to replace a poorer quality one in someone's collection.
The 1946 penny doesn't have the quality high enough to justify grading. aUC would have to be the lowest, which this coin is not.
Spend your money on acquiring other coins for your collection.

Forum: Coin, Bank Note, and Paper Money Grading: Australia, New Zealand, & South Pacific (Oceania)
 
Addition To My Curiosity Collection.
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Old Post Posted 05/28/2024  01:46 am
OK. It seems a "dryer" coin it is.
Thanks everyone for your input.
Forum: Variety & Error Coins, Bank Notes, Paper Money: Australia, New Zealand, & South Pacific (Oceania)
 
Addition To My Curiosity Collection.
aeromedic
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Old Post Posted 05/27/2024  7:56 pm
Interesting theory about dryer coins, but the Australian penny is much bigger in diameter than the American penny, nickel, dime or quarter. So a dryer coin is improbable. Having said that, getting stuck for a long period of time in some kind of mechanical device is certainly possible.
I was hoping that someone would have seen this kind of "shape change" on an Australian penny and how it happened. In the meantime, I'll keep exploring.
Forum: Variety & Error Coins, Bank Notes, Paper Money: Australia, New Zealand, & South Pacific (Oceania)

Addition To My Curiosity Collection.
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Old Post Posted 05/27/2024  08:25 am
Here's the latest addition. A 1934 Australian penny who shape has been altered dramatically.
The toning suggests it occurred many, many decades ago.
How and why are the questions.



Forum: Variety & Error Coins, Bank Notes, Paper Money: Australia, New Zealand, & South Pacific (Oceania)
 
1938 Penny Massive Flaw
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Old Post Posted 05/09/2024  10:13 pm
I've been reluctant to add to my posts, but have discovered more about this coin, that might be of interest to some.
The reverse had what looked like die breaks in places, but under magnification, they're actually small laminations, but not from the coin itself.
It might be considered that what happened on the obverse, also happened on the reverse to a minor degree.
Refer to previously posted images.
I sent the images to renowned penny authority Fred Lever, who has allowed me to post his response.

Your assessment of the situation sounds plausible to me.

Something that grabbed my attention were the blobs on the reverse!
There is a lot going on in that coin.

Musing about the lamination.
I agree with you, going by the tool marks the entire obverse may have been covered with a "skin" of copper.
Now was it a part of the blank planchet or added?

A comparison of weights with other same year coins may suggest something.
I have split coins, and from that feel yours may have been a rolling lamination fault of the blank planchet.
The fault line may have been very close to the surface and just produced a thin split but partly adhered.
Someone then tried to pick it off.
Underneath will be a shallow but complete strike as the image compresses some depth into the coin.

Otherwise a struck coin being showered with debris?
If so it should be heavier than the average weight.

Cheers, Fred.

The standard weight for this coin is 9.45 grams (All Coins Value) and after weighing a number of circulated 1938 pennies, they ranged from 9.40 to 9.50 grams. Mine weighed in at a heavier 9.67 grams which accords with Fred's prediction.
Still, it's curious that the obverse was similarly affected, but minuscule by comparison.
For those interested I'll post magnified images later, as the photo optimiser doesn't like the ones I've taken.

Forum: Variety & Error Coins, Bank Notes, Paper Money: Australia, New Zealand, & South Pacific (Oceania)
 
Silver Australian Penny And Halfpenny
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Australia
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Old Post Posted 05/09/2024  9:43 pm
There were no silver pennies or halfpennies minted.
Full stop.
The closest size predecimal Australian coins minted were the Florin and Shilling. These WERE silver.
Plating or painting the pennies and halfpennies was common for decorative purposes, and back in that time, you could STILL spend them like that.
Today, these are the kind of coin I'd discard for melting in a heartbeat.
Forum: Variety & Error Coins, Bank Notes, Paper Money: Australia, New Zealand, & South Pacific (Oceania)
 
Is Lloyds Auctions Worth It?
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Old Post Posted 04/05/2024  7:16 pm
I use Gowans, a local auction house. They auction household furniture, cars, bric-a-brac, tools, appliances, collectibles and almost anything.
I'm an Australian pre-decimal collector and any lot that looks interesting, I go through completely on inspection day, so I know what I'm getting. This way, I won't get saddled with something I don't want.
I've won many lots this way and now have many wonderful coins and stamps very cheaply that others missed because they weren't thorough enough.
Just as an example, I checked one lot which had a mis-strike penny and a 1946 penny. No one else saw these, and after getting home with my prize, found that there were TWO 1946 pennies.
I just love getting wins like that. The 16% buyers commission is minuscule by comparison. Many other wins like that have continued, but only because I take the time to check EVERY coin, even on 5kg lots of pennies. and I avoid other collectors "rubbish".
Naturally,I establish value in the lot before buying.#128526;
Forum: Coins, Bank Notes, and Paper Money: Australia, New Zealand, & South Pacific (Oceania)
 
New King Charles Coins Coming Soon
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Australia
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Old Post Posted 12/30/2023  11:02 pm
Got one in my change today in Tassie.
Unable to post a photo at the moment, but seeing as there have been plenty minted, I thought I'd just respond.
Forum: Coins, Bank Notes, and Paper Money: Australia, New Zealand, & South Pacific (Oceania)
 
1938 Penny Massive Flaw
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Australia
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Old Post Posted 11/19/2023  03:55 am
I appreciate your comment. Since I first posted, several collectors have had a look and determined that it's a lamination error, primarily because they have seen it in person. I am content with that, and no one else needs to comment further.
Thanks.

Forum: Variety & Error Coins, Bank Notes, Paper Money: Australia, New Zealand, & South Pacific (Oceania)
 
1938 Penny Massive Flaw
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Old Post Posted 11/16/2023  7:20 pm
Poacher, He said "lamination flaw/error".
If you were to see this properly, you would agree, and the only question would be "HOW did this happen?".
Once again, there is NO glue/resin on this coin PERIOD.

Forum: Variety & Error Coins, Bank Notes, Paper Money: Australia, New Zealand, & South Pacific (Oceania)
 
1938 Penny Massive Flaw
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Old Post Posted 11/16/2023  3:09 pm
The coin dealer I showed might post if he's a forum member, so I'll ask.
The lamination is truly copper and worn from circulation.I'm an engineer with decades of experience and I know metals, but not how to take photographs in this case.
A reputable expert in coins and minting, particularly pennies is what think I need, so if anyone knows one, please let me know. Thanks.
Forum: Variety & Error Coins, Bank Notes, Paper Money: Australia, New Zealand, & South Pacific (Oceania)
 
1938 Penny Massive Flaw
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Old Post Posted 11/15/2023  9:55 pm
Lastly, took the coin to a local dealer and confirmed what I have said previously. " A wonderful find, " was the comment.
It just goes to show that on occasions, photos aren't enough. Seeing something in person is best .
The dealer suggested I take more photos and send them to the Coin Review magazine which may use it as a topic for the month.
Thanks to all for suggestions and help.
Forum: Variety & Error Coins, Bank Notes, Paper Money: Australia, New Zealand, & South Pacific (Oceania)
 
1938 Penny Massive Flaw
aeromedic
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Australia
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Old Post Posted 11/15/2023  02:06 am
First results.
Good soaking in acetone. No effect at all.
Tested continuity of all surfaces and all were conductive, so is metallic.
Coin dealer was away for a funeral when I went in, but will check again ASAP and advise when I know.
Forum: Variety & Error Coins, Bank Notes, Paper Money: Australia, New Zealand, & South Pacific (Oceania)

1938 Penny Massive Flaw
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Old Post Posted 11/13/2023  4:42 pm
Will do that too.#128526;
Forum: Variety & Error Coins, Bank Notes, Paper Money: Australia, New Zealand, & South Pacific (Oceania)
 
1938 Penny Massive Flaw
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Australia
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Old Post Posted 11/13/2023  07:15 am
Sap and Echidna,
Thanks for the comments, but I'm not saying it is a die crack at all.
I've explained what I thought it was. I'm also thinking that the marks left were attempts to remove the layer many years ago and were unsuccessful, so the coin went back into circulation.
I've tried to get a relief view better to show the coin how it really is, but these photos are the best I can do.
I'm taking to a well known coin shop tomorrow to get an opinion from someone whose not just looking a photo. I post whatever is said.
What I plan to do tomorrow is to test the electrical continuity. If it's adhesive/ glue, it will not conduct. Plain and simple. I'll post the result.
Forum: Variety & Error Coins, Bank Notes, Paper Money: Australia, New Zealand, & South Pacific (Oceania)
 
1938 Penny Massive Flaw
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Old Post Posted 11/13/2023  12:57 am
It can't be glue or similar substance as the surface is worn enough to show that it's copper.
The text differences can be seen around "IND:IMP" showing that the copper material was on my planchet before being struck and imbedded into the surface . At a guess, I'd say the extra layer caused the text to exude creating larger text in that place.
Forum: Variety & Error Coins, Bank Notes, Paper Money: Australia, New Zealand, & South Pacific (Oceania)
 
1938 Penny Massive Flaw
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Old Post Posted 11/13/2023  12:48 am
This is the best I can without a digital microscope.


Forum: Variety & Error Coins, Bank Notes, Paper Money: Australia, New Zealand, & South Pacific (Oceania)
 
1938 Penny Massive Flaw
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Australia
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Old Post Posted 11/12/2023  11:23 pm
I know what you mean to think that, but the legend is larger in the affected areas which would be the effect of more metal than normal being struck.
Glue wouldn't change the lettering size . I'll post a better photo.
Forum: Variety & Error Coins, Bank Notes, Paper Money: Australia, New Zealand, & South Pacific (Oceania)
 
1938 Penny Massive Flaw
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Old Post Posted 11/12/2023  6:32 pm
I don't have scales accurate enough for coins to weigh this coin, so the best I can get is on the high side between 9 and 10 grams, which fits with the nominal weight of 9.45 grams.
Forum: Variety & Error Coins, Bank Notes, Paper Money: Australia, New Zealand, & South Pacific (Oceania)
 
1938 Penny Massive Flaw
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Old Post Posted 11/12/2023  5:25 pm
Thanks for the comments so far. My theory is just that, and I'm hoping for more information from those who know this coinage and how it's minted very well.
I'm quite excited about this find, as I've never had something so dramatic in appearance.
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