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| February 2022 RCM New Releases
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jazzy
Valued Member
Canada
98 Posts |
 Posted 02/04/2022 11:27 pm
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Have any of you folks seen the Specimen set in hand? The Mint site shows the toonie as the new version. Not the old version which was the last one going. I hope it's just another Mint misrepresentation as I want to keep the old style years going. I hope the PO has one, I'm headed there today. Keep you posted.
Seems someone added the circulation images to the item instead of the specimen renders. Either the employee clicked the wrong image, or they just don't exist.
Seems all of the coins' images except for the dollars' contain 'circulation' in the image filename. The dollars' image filenames don't contain 'specimen', but they also don't contain 'circulation'.
When you work with computers, you have a harder time paying full attention to details. Just the way it is.
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| | Forum: Canadian Commemoratives and Non-Circulating Coinage (NCLT) |
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| 2022 RCM Gold Plated Proof Silver Dollar
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jazzy
Valued Member
Canada
98 Posts |
Posted 01/16/2022 5:20 pm
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Fairly confident this year's main SD will be Alexander Graham Bell.
The "2022 Annual Favourites Subscription" page on the mint site contains the following text:
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Personality rights of ALEXANDER GRAHAM BELL are used with the permission of Alexander and Mabel Bell Legacy Foundation.
The subscription contains only the standard mint set, specimen set, and standard SD. The mint set obviously does not have any coin with Bell and this would be an unlikely deviation for the specimen set which has always been nature-based. Given we already have a gold coin with the theme, it follows that this year's SD should be Alexander Graham Bell (it's impossible to say for certain though). |
| | Forum: Canadian Commemoratives and Non-Circulating Coinage (NCLT) |
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| PCGS Reclassifies Early American Fugio Cent As Regular Issue Federal Coin
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jazzy
Valued Member
Canada
98 Posts |
Posted 01/05/2022 7:44 pm
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Where I am taken aback is the lack of transparency as to the rationale behind the decision. The issue at hand is chiefly of a historical matter, and not really about the physical characteristics of the coin itself (other than being able to affirm its identity when referred to in any documents). Given that this matter dates back a good while--an era of America for which many questions are still open--this is closer to scholarly research than basic hobbyist research.
That's not to say that non-academics can't research these topics--they should--but like anyone producing original findings, their process and rationale should be open for scrutiny. We have very little of that from the press release (again, not the typical format of such a topic) given.
Just as this forum allows the public to openly discuss these matters, I believe the best way to move forward is just to shoot PCGS an email asking for an explanation (I would use specific questions to which the answers should address). If they give an answer to the question, we have more insight into their thought process and can continue to proceed. If they can't, while that's not proof that they are wrong, it comes across as suspect.
Perhaps, some people here would be willing to ask them questions? That's the approach I would take if you feel you have an argument against their decision. Personally, I'm curious to see how this goes from here. |
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| Technical Reference On The RCM Manufacturing Process
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jazzy
Valued Member
Canada
98 Posts |
Posted 11/15/2021 5:43 pm
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That said, you will not find anything on the production details of modern coins, as that is patented protected.
If any of their technology is indeed "patented", you can look up the details of that patent online, where the technology is described. Patents are made public so other engineers and innovators can avoid copying them.
However, if they just use "secret" or "prioprietary" technology that is not patented, it's just that, a secret. We would have no way of knowing, until potentially that information gets released somehow. This is the most likely case, to mitigate counterfeiting.
Edit: I did a search for Canadian patents on the CIPO website, using the search phrase "Royal Canadian Mint". If you specify that phrase as specifically the applicant's name, you will get a few results. Opting to search any field will bring up several pages of results, though not all are relevant. So there are definitely some very specific things you can find out there, although I imagine still that quite a bit of what they do are internal trade secrets. |
| | Forum: Canadian Coins and Colonial Tokens |
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| Naturally "Weighted" Coins?
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jazzy
Valued Member
Canada
98 Posts |
Posted 11/12/2021 3:15 pm
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We all know no one likes to bet against a weighted coin, since it's designed to land one way more than the other.
Are there any coins throughout history that naturally exhibit this property? Giving enough flips it will land on one side more than the other by a fair (or not-so-fair) margin?
Let me know if you know of any  |
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| Anyone Know About These Off-Planchet Silver Strikes?
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jazzy
Valued Member
Canada
98 Posts |
Posted 11/12/2021 08:33 am
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With slabbed coins you now have two questions to ask:
1) is the slab authentic?
but more importantly,
2) is the coin authentic?
1) helps in determining 2) but the latter is usually more difficult than if the coin were raw (in which case the former would not apply anyway). Slabs seem to help novices have a sense of whether a coin is legitimate but an expert in the area would have better judgement anyway. |
| | Forum: Canadian Coins and Colonial Tokens |
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| Anyone Know About These Off-Planchet Silver Strikes?
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jazzy
Valued Member
Canada
98 Posts |
Posted 11/11/2021 9:39 pm
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If the coin has wear, it would get something like "AU-50", not MS or PL, since it's circulated. It's technically still a PL strike but as far as technical grading goes you have to treat it as circulated.
Proof likes are also struck at least twice under higher pressure. It makes the strike of design more sharp to a trained eye.
There may be other ways of telling but I'm not sure I would want a circulated proof-like, except as a novelty perhaps? |
| | Forum: Canadian Coins and Colonial Tokens |
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| Anyone Know About These Off-Planchet Silver Strikes?
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jazzy
Valued Member
Canada
98 Posts |
Posted 11/11/2021 9:09 pm
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Canadian Proof-like sets were produced until 2010. Starting in 2011 (technically, starting with the 2010 special edition set), Canadian mint sets included regular business strikes (which grade as "MS").
Specimen sets have been available for many years historically, and were produced for sale to the general public starting in 1970/71. From this point up until 1995, specimens and proof-likes are extremely similar and although I have never tried myself, I would imagine PCGS would likely confuse the two. Starting in 1996 Canadian specimen coins have a distinctive finish which you can see for yourself if you look at the pictures on the mint website.
Actual "proof" sets were not produced until 1981. They have always featured a strong cameo and heavy contrast with the fields, which are extremely reflective. PGCS grades these as "PR" (not P) and I usually see other grading services use "PF" instead.
The coins in the pictures in the ebay listing appear to be prooflikes to me. @john100 is correct that PCGS is prone to confusing PL and MS but I believe they got it right with these coins.
The above is correct to the best of my knowledge, if you think I made a mistake, just let me know.
Edit: To clarify the difference between PL and MS coins is that PL coins came from mint sets, while MS coins came from regular distribution channels (rolls, bags ,etc). As a result PL coins were handled carefully and will usually be seen in higher grades. Business strikes are handled in bulk and as a result have more marks and flaws coming out of the mint. Hence a pristine business strike / MS coin is much less common than a PL coin of the same grade and will be priced as such. Since 2011, mint sets contain regular business strikes, making it easier to obtain better examples of those coins, if you go through a few mint sets and cut out the best ones. |
| | Forum: Canadian Coins and Colonial Tokens |
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| Anyone Know About These Off-Planchet Silver Strikes?
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jazzy
Valued Member
Canada
98 Posts |
Posted 11/11/2021 7:06 pm
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From what I'm seeing:
- The labels indicate prooflike, not proof.
- The quarter label says it was struck over a 1964 25c. I imagine this means the coin was already struck as a 1964 before it was re-struck as a 1969. Can anyone see any evidence of a prior design on the quarter? I'm unable to see anything that stands out myself. Don't forget the original design would likely be slightly or substantially rotated unless perfect care was taken to align the dies precisely. |
| | Forum: Canadian Coins and Colonial Tokens |
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| Anyone Know About These Off-Planchet Silver Strikes?
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jazzy
Valued Member
Canada
98 Posts |
Posted 11/11/2021 5:38 pm
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https://www.ebay.ca/itm/402828274041
These look intriguing--1969 coins struck on silver planchets (would normally be nickel). However, way out of my price range.
Does anyone know about these? Are there others out there?
The only thing that bothers me is that the numbers after the "E" on the label do not match the PCGS website. However, that could very likely just be their database being changed after the fact so I'd like to see what others more knowledgeable have to say, if they've heard of these before. |
| | Forum: Canadian Coins and Colonial Tokens |
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| First Time Crossing ICCS To PCGS (A Few Results)
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jazzy
Valued Member
Canada
98 Posts |
Posted 11/11/2021 4:12 pm
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Interesting about the 1c coins being tougher to get a good grade on with PCGS. Does this mainly have to do with the numerical grade? Or also the color? And what makes them different compared to silver for example?
The differences in focus (fields vs devices) is also good to know for the future. I suppose a mark on the field might "pop out" more at first glance but, maybe, a mark on the devices is more natural -- if you dropped a perfect coin on a table 1,000 times, which would have more marks: the fields or devices? |
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